On the other hand, they say higher neat my forehead and beyond with the HD 800 S. When the strings come in to aid in the climax, it comes as more of a shock with the HD 820. It'd been a while since I've heard the HD800s before hearing the HD820 but the perceived difference in "stereo width" was negligible. I like them in that order from most harsh highs and lacking bass, to smoothest highs with the best bass. The new model just takes everything to another level. Sennheiser HD800S. While the added cup material causes the HD820 to weigh in at 360 grams compared to the HD800S’s 330 grams, neither is a heavy headphone. For example, in the song Growing Trade by Levon Help, the cymbals are higher in the mix when listening with the HD 800 S. However, with both headphones, those cymbals are long and full of rich harmonics. Given the debate about the HD820’s dip, I was anxious to measure the HD820 with my MiniDSP EARS. Befitting its extra cost, Sennheiser has included three cables (rather than the HD800S’s two) with the HD820: an unbalanced 1/4-inch stereo cable, a balanced XLR-4 cable, and a balanced 4.4mm Pentaconn cable. Music by: Little Dragon, 'Fortune'. Sign up for a new account in our community. These boosted highs are super even so they maintain the same character as the HD 820, whose highs are a light boost but are also quite even, even borderline neutral sounding. Both the Sennheiser HD 820 and the Sennheiser HD 800 S are available for the best price here: To save 10% on your first purchase at Audio46, use code “majorhifi” at checkout. A Tale of Two Sennheisers: The HD820 and the HD800S. Focal Clear. And although both headphones’ drivers are covered (the HD 820 by glass and the HD 800 S by a metal grill), they are both visible. The German company has taken what was a … I'm sure some people will prefer the HD800S. https://www.youtube.com/majorhifi On “Baba,” the opening synthesizer line is crisp and tonally accurate on the HD800S. However, it sounds like their low frequencies have emphasis in slightly different parts of the region. While the HD800S is still a slightly bass-light headphone, its low end has enough heft to render Moon’s kick drum and John Entwistle’s bass accurately. Note: If you were looking for a review of the Sennheiser HD 650 vs. HD 700, click on over! After getting my speakers, Piega Premium 5.2, but especially the Focal Electra 1028, I found myself to listen to them on fewer and fewer occasions. 31 points. The Sennheiser HD800S is the ‘new & improved’ version of the original HD800, a sound revelation which revolutionized headphone audio when released in early 2009.. Now over six years later comes the updated HD 800S touting improvements in bass response, along with a hip black color scheme and an XLR-4 cord for use with balanced-drive headphone amps. The HD 820 has a boost in the high part of the lows, almost bordering on the low-mids. On the other hand, the ridged piece of the HD 800 S is super thin and pliable. When the Sennheiser HD820 was announced, we at the store were pretty intrigued. After testing different cup materials, Grell and his fellow designers settled on Gorilla Glass due to its rigidity. To my delight, it turns out the new Sennheiser HDV 820 is the genuine article. As a result, it has more contrast in the soundstage which provides emotional impact, even though it does feel quite as deep as the HD 800 S. For example, in the piece La Mer, L. 111aL II, Jeux de vagues by Claude Debussy, the woodwind melodies sit more in the middle of my head when I listened with the HD 820. Grado Wireless Headphones GW100, Everything We Know! Both the headphone and amp are German-made and are available for $2,400 USD each (or $3500 and $3000 respectively in AUD). As Sennheiser intended, the controversial upper-bass/lower-mids dip reduces muddiness in most (but not all) recordings. On the other hand, it felt more tucked in and even with the HD 800 S. Likewise, the kick drum seemed to have slightly more length and sub energy when I listened with the HD 800 S.  And although the differences were subtle, the groove of the song felt a little bit different in each can. DISCLOSURE: We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com, affiliated sites and sponsors. The openness and elevated highs of the Sennheiser HD 800 S lays a blanket of slightly dramatic height over everything. The price of the HD800S is a lot higher though. As the piano and drums kick in, the impressive bass slam of the HD820 becomes obvious, but so does its somewhat disjoined presentation. Josh Mound has been an audiophile since age 14, when his father played Spirit's "Natures Way" through his Boston Acoustics floorstanders and told Josh to listen closely. But the past few years have seen companies like Focal, Audeze, and Sennheiser attempting to turn some of their best open headphones into audiophile-grade closed cans. The HD800S has been the go to HP for two years something. (I think I may have screwed up HD800 data because it was so long ago - I will revisit the above the post. The dip creates a separation between the bass and the mids that, besides affecting tonality, leads to a notable sonic incoherence. Our Verdict. Find out how you can become a sponsor here. As a result, they are extremely comfortable and lightweight. The HD820 uses the same 56-mm “ring radiator” as the HD800S. The Stellia’… Like any daring and controversial deviation from neutrality, the pros and cons of the HD820’s unique presentation become apparent very quickly. However, the HD 800 S has an emphasis that is a little bit higher, bordering the lower high frequencies whereas the HD 820’s is a little bit lower in the high-mids. Like the HD800S, the HD820’s clamping force is minimal, and with proper adjustment both the HD820 and HD800S are comfortable over long listening sessions. Steph is a musician, recordist, mixer, and producer. Well, even though HD800 still sounded very good from a technical perspective, the speakers were also very advanced in areas like d… The HD800 definitely are bright. Additionally, there is more body to the frame of the earcup of the HD 820. According to Grell, the aim of the HD820 was to create a “closed-type for audiophiles.”. Both have the same nominal impedance (300 ohms) and nearly the same sensitivity (103 dB for the HD820 and 102 dB for the HD800s). Sennheiser has fixed the original HD 800's Achilles' heel. Despite the Clear’s extra bass, its bass is also cleaner than the HD800S’s. Sennheiser’s latest high-end headphones are a treat, and a clear step up from the standard version. I listened to the HD820 over four weeks  and compared it to the HD800S and several other cans using a Schiit Yggdrasil/Ragnarok stack, with lossless files played via the OSX version of Audirvana Plus. That’s even more true when those headphones come with the HD820’s hefty price tag. There’s also the fact that, despite being a closed can, the HD820 (red) don’t isolate better than vented closed cans like the aforementioned Atticus (orange), which lacks the HD820’s soundstage, microdetail, and low bass extension, but bests the HD820 on overall dynamics, smoothness, and (crucially) tonal balance: Whereas the HD800S can now stand toe-to-toe (and often best) any open can in its price range, the HD820 are hard to recommend over another warm-leaning closed can like the Atticus, which (at a U.S. MSRP of $1,099) happens to come in at less than half the price of the HD820. The HD 800 S is the result of Sennheiser following its users' example. It is a separate layer from the thicker frame around it. This dip, which slopes down from about 150hz and bottoms out around 300hz, is visible in every measurement of the HD820, including Sennheiser’s own: While everyone agrees there’s a dip, its size has been debated. It was a surprise then when Sennheiser brought out an even higher priced model that we are reviewing today, the Sennheiser HD820. 00. Both have an impressive sense of extension, but the HD 800 S high frequencies have more energy. UPDATE: Data has been corrected). Shares. The sound coming out of the back of the unit reflects off the curved glass and is directed towards sound-absorbing chambers, so avoiding the downsides of a closed design (in theory at least). The rest of the headphones are typically Sennheiser. But the HD820’s elevated lower bass and upper-bass/lower-mids dip renders Quadrophenia a bassy mess. Both the Sennheiser HD 820 and the Sennheiser HD 800 S have slight, subtle boosts in their low frequencies. However, they give precedence to slightly different areas of the low frequency spectrum and different instruments as a result. The path to the HD820 began in 2012 with a simple attempt to close the company’s flagship open-back, the HD800. Therefore, their overall fit on the head is nearly identical other than the difference in weight. (While I put the HD820 and HD800S through the paces using a variety of music, from jazz to pop to rock, I was in a Who mood when writing this review, so the examples in this review will be drawn from their early-‘70s catalog.). The HD 820 has more of a sense of intimacy but still feels wide and expansive when the mix becomes wide and expansive. However, there’s a good case to be made that world class headphones shouldn’t have a flaw that you need to acclimate your ears to before you can fully enjoy them. By What Hi-Fi? Electric guitars lose some of their fullness, string articulation on bass guitars is lost, and drums sound hollow. The Sennheiser HD800S is an open over-ear dynamic headphone. Sennheiser HD 800 S $ 1,490. They are a still a technological marvel and I’ve been enjoying them at my house for a few years now. As Sennheiser’s lead designer Axel Grell has explained, “Open type headphones are better by principle because sound that is radiated by the diaphragm to the rear can leave the system and the sound that is reflected from the ear can also leave the system.” As a result, Sennheiser’s closed cans have traditionally been aimed at professionals like studio musicians and DJs who require isolation, while their audiophile line has focused on open cans. In general, the biggest difference between the Sennheiser HD 820 and the Sennheiser HD 800 S is, of course, one has a closed-back design, and the other has an open-back design, respectively. As a result, both headphones have a similar feel and response to transients and energy in the low frequencies. The Sennheiser HD800s still seems the standard which people judge headphones by, although I notice that there are some high end closed back by Sennheiser now (HD820 at 2K), I personally didn't get on with the Focal's but this is a really personal thing due to fit and weight. Physically, the HD820 also resembles the HD800S. The HD820 projects incredibly wide and relatively deep, rivaling (and even exceeding) the soundstage of many good open-back headphones. Sennheiser HD820 – close call. Comparison winner. vs. vs. 15 facts in comparison. On the flat side of the pad, where the pad touches the head,, they are coated in microfiber. Compared to the Focal Clear (U.S. MSRP $1,500), which is arguably the HD800S’s clearest (pun intended) competition in the open-back audiophile category, the HD800S (green) is slightly brighter, while the Clear (blue) is slightly warmer: The Clear and the HD800S are remarkably close when it comes to factors like transient response, dynamics, and overall clarity. I have heard the HD700, HD800, HD800s and the HD820. Switching to a more neutral set of cans, including the HD800S, is a sonic breath of fresh air. No EQ. It's the kind of brightness people eventually learned to love, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. HD800S 75th Anniversary Edition vs HD820 on Liquid Platinum fed by MXDAC. In his 2018 CanJam presentation, Grell graphed the frequency response of the HD800S and the HD820, which was still just a prototype at the time, to illustrate how the HD820’s response would deviate from the HD800S’s. In addition to longform written reviews, he also handles the MajorHiFi Youtube channel. On the other hand, the HD 820’s pads are thicker. The low frequencies of the Focal Stellia and Sennheiser HD 820 are quite different from each other. So, just as Sennheiser has nearly perfected its flagship open can by revising the HD800 into the HD800S, it’s also introduced a technically impressive but tonally flawed top-of-the-line closed can in the HD820. Both headphones are made to listen at home, and Sennheiser claims that the goal of the HD 820 was to replicate the magnificent soundstage of the HD 800 S. Today, I will try to answer that question as best as I can with this Sennheiser HD 820 vs Sennheiser HD 800 S Comparison Review. Both the Sennheiser HD 820 and the Sennheiser HD 800 S have earpads that follow the asymmetrical shape of their earcups. While both have a sense of extension, the Stellia’s low end has more energy and level than the HD 820. Take a look at the HD 820’s earcups and you’ll find a concave piece of Gorilla glass covering the rather elegant-looking drive unit. The HDV 820 is one hell of a versatile headphone amplifier on its own regardless of your choice of cans though. That driver is effectively the same as used on the open-backed, and rather excellent, HD800Ses. I have no experience with the 820 but this comparison gives me a very good idea... Nice piece of work @JoshM, a spot on takeaway with HD820, even though we like them! In others, it’s as little as 3 db. My recent review of the Sennheiser HD 820 prompted from questions from our subscribers, and inspired curiosity in me as well. Switching to the HD820, it’s immediately clear that Grell and his team at Sennheiser succeeded in one of their top goals, which was creating a closed set of cans with the soundstage of an open pair. Post navigation ← Audeze LCD-4 vs LCD-3, HD800 & HD800s. It is marketed next to the HD800 and not a replacement. The opening synth line of “Baba O’Riley” sounds “scooped out” on the HD820, suppressing harmonics that are usually front-and-center and revealing others that are usually inaudible. In short, with the HD800S, Sennheiser has turned the flawed HD800 into a more balanced, more competent all-around headphone that now has to be the go-to set of cans for audiophiles seeking out the best detail and soundstage possible. Tags : HD800S, HD800s vs HD800, Sennheiser HD800S review. They asked, “Okay… so what’s the difference between these and the Sennheiser HD 800 S?.” It’s a valid question too. He lives in Charlottesville, Virginia, with his wife and two cats. Listening to “Baba O’Riley” from the clear and dynamic mid-1980s mastering of Who’s Next, the tonal contrast between the HD800S and the HD820 is marked. I auditioned  both and I preferred the HD-800S. They’re classy and well made, built sturdily e… Today, we’re going to start at the top, both in terms of price (U.S. MSRP of $2,399) and in terms of expectations, with Sennheiser’s HD820. If your preference is for a (mostly) neutral set of cans (as mine is), the bad news is that the HD820’s dip is clearly audible when listening to frequency sweeps. Sennheiser’s first closed-back flagship headphones are beautifully built, but their sound doesn’t live up the company’s high standards. I mention the rest of my system in the review. Which means three variable – as the diverse headphone amps made it unbearable to match the volume heights, which couldhave a significant effect on how individually worthy something sounds. Both the Sennheiser HD 820 and the Sennheiser HD 800 S have a high-mid emphasis. They made the Gorilla Glass panels in the cups convex to direct reflections into dampened chambers so that “reflected sound waves have virtually no chance of disturbing the movement of the HD 820's advanced 56 mm transducers and of compromising the precision of the audio reproduction,” as Sennheiser puts it. The Sennheiser HD820 is an amazing headphone and was brought in as the new flagship over the outgoing yet still incredible HD800S. Introduction The Sennheiser HD820 has always been compared to its open-back counterpart the HD800s. The big question is of course, does it do what that very famous headphone has been able to do, just with a closed-back design. I read the review above and thought, what's driving the HP's and the rest of the system, cause I honestly don't hear the tonally flawed character. The good news is that the HD820’s dip doesn’t sound quite as large as it measures. I won’t dwell too much on the physical except to say that the 30g difference in weight isn’t very noticeable, but the added clamp definitely is. As a fellow HD800S fan, and having heard the the HD820 at various shows, your impressions are spot on. The 800 were and still are, to this day, one of the best sounding headphones on the planet. The two share the same ring diaphragm and Helmholtz resonator design, and they both use the same connectors (now in black for the HD 800 S). Contact: steph@majorhifi.com, Sennheiser HD 820 vs Sennheiser HD 800 S Comparison Review. MajorHiFi may receive commission through retail offers. Around the earpad, they’re made of leather. Hopefully, as was the case with the HD800, Sennheiser will release a revision of the HD820 in the not-too-distant future that remedies its flaws and keeps its strengths. On 1/3/2019 at 1:54 AM, One and a half said. I think I weigh the Clear's "cleaner" bass performance more than you do. At the same time, the violin piece at 1:00 is a little bright/sibilant on the HD800S, and is a whisker more tamed on the HD820. Befitting its extra cost, Sennheiser has included three cables (rather than the HD800S’s two) with the HD820: an unbalanced 1/4-inch stereo cable, a balanced XLR-4 cable, and a balanced 4.4mm Pentaconn cable. For example, when I was listening to MUNA’s song, Winterbreak-Tiesto’s Deep House Remix, the bass synth seemed to have more energy when I was listening to the HD 820. Sennheiser HD820 review: too closed for comfort. Nonetheless, the upper-bass/lower-mids dip of the HD820 clearly affects how it reproduces music. Lastly, both headbands have a soft, microfiber-coated padding. Both have a slider along the top of the headband which is made of metal. Sennheiser has clearly made the HD 800 S to address the one major criticism that was consistently levelled at the HD 800, that their treble can sound a little harsh. Excellent review! With the HD800S, Sennheiser has fixed the treble peak that marred the HD800 and sent modders searching for solutions. While the dip seems to accentuate the instrumental separation and reduce muddiness with well-recorded, well-mixed material, the HD820’s unique frequency response makes some sonically less-than-stellar material even cloudier. Otherwise, enjoy the showdown… While there’s reason to be cautious about any oddities found in a budget measurement rig like the EARS, the EARS acquit themselves fairly well in comparison to much more advanced measurement gear. Additionally, they have shock absorbers where headband meets the yolks to adapt to different head shapes and sizes. For PC on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Are sennheiser HD800s good for gaming? First few days impressions THE TREBLE: Tie HD800S keeps up the brilliance of OG HD800 (owned this a few yr ago), but dials it down to the level where it rides the cutting edge of being brilliant yet not irritating like the OG HD800 can be. Both the Sennheiser HD 820 and the Sennheiser HD 800 S are awesome! Interesting review, looking forward to more. The HD820, according to Grell, would have a small dip between 150hz to 200hz in order to compensate for the resonances of closed-back cans, allowing the the HD820 to possess the extra bass thump of closed cans without “blur[ring]the mid details.”. Your own preferences will determine which one is better for you. Instruments and voices are easily placed in space and are remarkably clear, likely owing to the HD820’s remarkably low distortion. However, the HD800S is slightly better than the Clear in retrieving microdetail (even accounting for the HD800S’s brighter character), and the HD800S’s significantly more spacious soundstage also allows for better separation between instruments than the Clear can muster. In fact, Sennheiser isn’t saying a great deal about the changes between the two. The Sennheiser HD 820 have a very deep and confident-sounding bass, with power and the right amount of reserve to sound accurate. Why was that? However, they are durable and have a cloth coating. Josh is currently a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Virginia, where he teaches classes on modern U.S. politics and the history of popular music. Since then, Josh has listened to lots of music, owned lots of gear, and done lots of book learnin'. If the HD820’s build and presentation share much in common with the HD800S’s, its sound is where it deviates. And although both headphones’ drivers are covered (the HD 820 by glass and the HD 800 S by a metal grill), they are both visible. As a result, neither is really better or worse, they’re just different. If you like how the HD800S looks (and I do), you’ll also appreciate the HD820’s black-and-silver color scheme and build that mixes high-strength plastic and aluminum. It’s ridged embellishments are actually part of the frame as a whole. On the other hand, the Sennheiser HD 820 centers more so in the middle of the height domain, with the height stretching up for particularly high frequency instruments and parts of the mix. (Grell’s claim that the HD820 is “good and linear” enough to be used audio professionals strikes me as unlikely.) Today I will be comin’ at you hard, with a rock solid post about two highly regarded audiophile type headphones in my Sennheiser HD 800 vs. HD 650 review! The HD820 is more noticeable on the head – not in a bad way – just more acutely aware of its presence. They also have a larger soundstage thanks to their open-back design. However, the HD 800 S has much thinner pads than the HD 820. As you may know, I am a big fan of HD800 as well. 11 April 2016. Keeping with The Who, the Mobile Fidelity mastering of Quadrophenia presents that somewhat murky mix at its best. But it's undoubtedly a very colored headphone, and I just can't get past that huge dip, as someone who prefers only modest deviations from neutral. The HD820 is basically an HD800S, closed-back. 00 $ 1,449. Their coated in the same microfiber coating as the headband. In some measurements it’s as much as 15 db. Lastly, both headphones’ earcups house the connector for the cables. The HD 820’s lows are modest in volume, although have a feeling of evenness and realism to them. The cables of both the Sennheiser HD 820 and the Sennheiser HD 800 S are pretty much identical. Not only because of the color and the absorber that removes the 6kHz peak somewhat but also because of the extra (balanced) cable that comes with it. However, the effect of the HD820’s dip on tonality is serious. Sennheiser HD800S review If sensational sound quality is your priority, these high-end headphones are worth an audition Tested at £1200. The high frequencies of the Sennheiser HD 800 S have more emphasis than the high frequencies of the Sennheiser HD 820. Add that to the fact that "headstage" is something I find more elusive than most other HP enthusiasts (It's all "between the ears" and nothing compared to a normal two channel image IMO), the Sennheisers are a bit flawed - but I know I swim upstream in this opinion. 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